Conspiracy and Myth: Was Scientific Truth, Climate Change, Magic and COVID19

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Conspiracy and Myth: Was Scientific Truth, Climate Change, Magic and COVID19

Steve Smith

I think there is something in here for both what I take to be Glen's and Dave's perspectives as well as many others...

https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/the-conspiracy-myth/

I get a little weirded out when he talks about Rupert Sheldrake, but virtually everything else he discusses I find hard to suppress.   And after Sheldrake, he prescribes visiting enemy territory "as a respectful guest, not a hostile spy", which helped me re-read his passage about Sheldrake more thoughtfully.

If Eisenstein's mode is interesting to you, I recommend the David Abrams recent conversation with him which also spends a lot of time on "Magic" which I think needn't confront anyone's sensibilities.   They also cover some of the larger issues framing Climate Change in what I find to be a very enlightened way that might be easier for (mild?) deniers to hear and a more expansive/productive way for Climate Change Enthusiasts to hear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NGjf-6RYos



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gepr
Thanks so much for linking that essay! I needed a break from my addiction to anti-masker videos.

From the article:
"We might call that pantheon Separation, and one of its chief motifs is the war against the Other."

We've discussed "The Barrier of Objects" and similar things quite a bit. We saw a version of it just a few posts ago re the obviously false dichotomy between events vs. things. So, this fits right in.

In the same vein, I learned a long time ago about HP Lovecraft's racism. But I did NOT, until recently, understand his stories about the Void were easily mapped onto his racism. The Void represents what he thought of as the way black people pollute a city or neighborhood. Lovecraft's stories were, for me, the ultimate conception of Separation/Other, the best descriptions I'd ever read or heard. Now that I buy into the idea that his well-described conceptions of the Other were really poetic restatements of his racism, I'm absolutely, tragically torn. So far, I refuse to stop wearing my Miskatonic University t-shirt. We'll see, though.


On 7/21/20 8:22 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> I think there is something in here for both what I take to be Glen's and Dave's perspectives as well as many others...
>
> https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/the-conspiracy-myth/ <https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/the-conspiracy-myth/?_page=3>
>
> I get a little weirded out when he talks about Rupert Sheldrake, but virtually everything else he discusses I find hard to suppress.   And after Sheldrake, he prescribes visiting enemy territory "as a respectful guest, not a hostile spy", which helped me re-read his passage about Sheldrake more thoughtfully.
>
> If Eisenstein's mode is interesting to you, I recommend the David Abrams recent conversation with him which also spends a lot of time on "Magic" which I think needn't confront anyone's sensibilities.   They also cover some of the larger issues framing Climate Change in what I find to be a very enlightened way that might be easier for (mild?) deniers to hear and a more expansive/productive way for Climate Change Enthusiasts to hear.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NGjf-6RYos

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