Conergy Group CGY.DE, Santa Fe office, Frankfurt Stock Exchange, huge
partner in NanoSolar, now a bargain at 14.16 Euros? Rich Murray 2008.05.25 2008.06.04 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/message/77 for full text ! ? In mutual service, Rich Murray Rich Murray Room For All 1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, NM 87505 rmforall at comcast.net 505-501-2298 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/ http://www.conergy.us/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-267/236_read-8849/ News Conergy Introduces SolarGiant Ground-Mount Array in North America 12 March 2008 Cost-effective and flexible solution, proven through extensive use in commercial, agricultural and utility scale PV installations throughout Europe Denver, Colorado, March 12, 2008 -- Conergy introduced its SolarGiant NA ground-mounted PV array structure. Designed expressly for the North American market and intended for use in commercial through utility-scale PV projects, the SolarGiant NA provides a particularly flexible and cost-effective PV mounting solution. Key to the SolarGiant's cost-effectiveness is module installation and grounding. The SolarGiant uses a high-strength, proprietary rail system that allows modules to be simply slid into place, dramatically decreasing installation time. The SolarGiant's unique, proprietary Electriwedge grounding system, developed in cooperation with Wiley Electronics LLC quickly locks the modules in place and provides electrical continuity throughout the array. "We're excited about the SolarGiant NA and the unique features and advantages it brings to the commercial PV market," said Don Massa, Mounting Systems Product Manager for Conergy. "We recognize that labor costs make up a large portion of project's cost and the SolarGiant helps installers minimize that cost component while providing a structurally robust and esthetically pleasing product." The fixed-tilt SolarGiant can be field-set for tilt angles from 15? to 35?. It can be mounted conventionally on or in caissons but was designed primarily for surface mounting on simple concrete footers. The SolarGiant's simplified structure has been carefully designed to reduce the number of labor- and cost-intensive mounting points while still allowing it to withstand wind loads up to 120mph. A Conergy SolarGiant White Paper is available for download. Images: 3D Schematic Field Installation About Conergy Conergy AG is one of the world's largest companies 100% dedicated to renewable energy with an array of premium manufactured products and over 70,000 solar systems installed worldwide. Listed since 2005 on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange, the group pursues a global growth strategy: it produces, installs and plans solar systems for its customers in more than 20 countries. The Conergy Group is now represented by branch offices on four continents. In the US, Conergy is a manufacturer and distributor of premium quality solar electric, solar thermal, solar water pumping, and wind power solutions to a national network of authorized dealers. For additional information: Don Massa Product Manager - Conergy Mounting Systems 2480 W. 26th Ave., Ste. 26-B Denver, CO 80211 USA 720-305-0716 (direct) d.massa at conergy.us http://www.conergy.us/desktopdefault.aspx Conergy, Inc. Phone: 505 473-3800 Fax: 505 473-3830 Toll Free: 888 396-6611 (USA) Santa Fe office: 1730 Camino Carlos Rey, Suite 103 Santa Fe, NM 87507 Albuquerque office: 7007 Wyoming Blvd NE, Building C Albuquerque, NM 87109 http://www.nanosolar.com/cache/edn.htm News and New Products A solar panel on every building Claiming to be the first solar manufacturer capable of profitably selling solar panels that generate at as little as $0.99/W, Nanosolar has shipped its initial product after 5 years of development. By John F. Mason, Contributing Editor -- Electronic Business, 1/21/2008 After 5 years of product development, Palo Alto, Calif.-based Nanosolar Inc has shipped its first product. The lucky winner was a local power plant installation in Eastern Germany -- lucky because the company's products are sold out till 2009. Nanosolar's products boast an impressive list of the world's firsts. R. Martin Roscheisen, the company's CEO, recently announced the first printed thin-film solar cell in a commercial panel product, the Nanosolar Utility Panel; the first thin-film solar cell with a low-cost back-contact capability; the lowest-cost solar panel, which would make Nanosolar the first solar manufacturer capable of profitably selling solar panels that generate at as little as $0.99/W; and the highest-current thin-film solar panel, delivering 5 times the current of any other thin-film panel on the market. One of the commercial panels will remain at Nanosolar for exhibit; another will go to the Tech Museum in San Jose; and a third was to be auctioned off on eBay, "which dropped the auction when they learned we planned to give the proceeds to charity," Roscheisen said. In April, Nanosolar broke the news that it had spent $100 million to build a plant to produce sheets of solar cells equipped with an absorber 100 times thinner than that needed for a silicon wafer cell that would deliver a similar performance and the durability of a cell. Its sheets, which were cost-efficient for widespread deployment, could be mass-produced on a global scale and would be available in many versatile forms. They were bendable and designed to be durable for decades. The technology is based on the economics of printing non-vacuum/solution-coated material. The Department of Energy recently boosted the company's funds and prestige by choosing it for the high-profile Solar America Initiative along with SunPower, First Solar, and General Electric. "Following its sale to Germany, Nanosolar has a credible path toward shipping $10 billion worth of high-ops-margin products to commercial customers with a simple and predictable sales model," said Roscheisen (pictured). "Even if we make this goal, the company would still only have a single-digit market-penetration percentage. So there will be attractive returns for long-term investors of all types and sizes. We are also sold out until 2009." Nanosolar maintains a worldwide network of partners for development, manufacturing, and distribution. In August 2006, Nanosolar and the Conergy Group in Hamburg, Germany, signed a long-term agreement to develop large-scale photovoltaic systems with a proprietary design to tightly interconnect its panels on a variety of surfaces. Conergy's knowledge and expertise in the development and integration of state-of-the-art components and Nanosolar's experience in the design of solar cells and panels based on thin-film device technology will make Nanosolar's dream come true: "a solar panel on every building." On December 18, 2007, Nanosolar and Germany's Beck Energy, an integrator of large-scale solar power systems, announced having won a highly competitive public selection process for a solar power plant owned by one of the largest waste management companies in Eastern Germany. The project will employ the Nanosolar Utility Panel in combination with systems technology and services from Beck Energy. The initial size of the plant is 1 million watts, an amount sufficient to power approximately 400 homes. The Nanosolar Utility Panel is Nanosolar's first product as part of its award-winning PowerSheet product line and the company's solution for building solar power plants at the outskirts of urban centers. "This is the first time that a solar electricity cell and panel have been designed entirely and specifically for utility-scale power generation," Roscheisen said. "It will set the standard for green power generation at utility scale." Solar-electric power plants have advantages over solar-thermal plants, coal-fired, and other conventional plants, as they are more economical and can be built in a variety of sizes and fit into places not intended for energy-producing plants, Nanosolar boasts. The company is preparing to offer solar electricity products to volume business customers including the Nanosolar PowerSheet, a A-100 cell technology delivered in an industry-standard package that ensures premium lifetime and full compatibility with existing mounting and installation practices; Nanosolar SolarPly, its flagship building-integrated product that acts as a solar-electric "carpet" for integration with commercial roofing membranes; and Nanosolar Utiliscale, a product specifically designed for large-scale, ground-mounted plant installations. The United States is number 1 in the world's potential for solar growth. With a newly installed total power of around 105 megawatts in 2005, the US market constitutes the 3rd largest for photovoltaics. Around 75% of these systems have been installed in California. According to a number of studies, the US photovoltaics market will grow to an annual installed capacity of between 300 to 400 megawatt peak by 2010. Conergy, through its partnership with Nanosolar, intends to substantially expand in North America. In Europe, Conergy is ahead of the game. With an expected revenue of more than $1.13 billion (800 million euros) in 2007 and 1,300 employees, Conergy is the largest solar company in Europe, and is also an international supplier for wind and bioenergy companies. Conergy has branches on 5 continents with plans to expand into North and South America, the Mediterranean, Asia, and Australia. In the US, Conergy distributes solar products to its branches from Santa Fe, N.M. >From its affiliate SunTechnics Energy Systems Inc in Sacramento, Calif., it sells and installs renewable energy systems; and via Voltwerk LLC in New York it develops and finances large solar, wind, and bioenergy projects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conergy [ more at initial URL..... ] |
Rich,
This mailing list is probably not the best place for stock analysis. -S > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Murray [mailto:rmforall at comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:13 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: [FRIAM] Conergy Group CGY.DE, Santa Fe > office,Frankfurt Stock Exchange, huge partner in > NanoSolar,now a bargain at 14.16 Euros? Rich Murray > 2008.05.25 2008.06.04 > > Conergy Group CGY.DE, Santa Fe office, Frankfurt Stock Exchange, huge > partner in NanoSolar, now a bargain at 14.16 Euros? Rich > Murray 2008.05.25 > 2008.06.04 > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/message/77 for full text > > ! ? In mutual service, Rich Murray > > Rich Murray Room For All 1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, NM 87505 > rmforall at comcast.net 505-501-2298 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/ > > > http://www.conergy.us/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-267/236_read-8849/ > > News > Conergy Introduces SolarGiant Ground-Mount Array in North America > 12 March 2008 > > Cost-effective and flexible solution, proven through extensive use in > commercial, agricultural and utility scale PV installations throughout > Europe > > Denver, Colorado, March 12, 2008 -- Conergy introduced its > SolarGiant NA > ground-mounted PV array structure. Designed expressly for the > North American > market and intended for use in commercial through > utility-scale PV projects, > the SolarGiant NA provides a particularly flexible and > cost-effective PV > mounting solution. > > Key to the SolarGiant's cost-effectiveness is module installation and > grounding. The SolarGiant uses a high-strength, proprietary > rail system that > allows modules to be simply slid into place, dramatically decreasing > installation time. The SolarGiant's unique, proprietary Electriwedge > grounding system, developed in cooperation with Wiley Electronics LLC > quickly locks the modules in place and provides electrical continuity > throughout the array. > > "We're excited about the SolarGiant NA and the unique features and > advantages it brings to the commercial PV market," said Don > Massa, Mounting > Systems Product Manager for Conergy. "We recognize that labor > costs make up > a large portion of project's cost and the SolarGiant helps installers > minimize that cost component while providing a structurally robust and > esthetically pleasing product." > > The fixed-tilt SolarGiant can be field-set for tilt angles > from 15? to 35?. > It can be mounted conventionally on or in caissons but was designed > primarily for surface mounting on simple concrete footers. > The SolarGiant's > simplified structure has been carefully designed to reduce > the number of > labor- and cost-intensive mounting points while still allowing it to > withstand wind loads up to 120mph. A Conergy SolarGiant White Paper is > available for download. > > Images: > > 3D Schematic > > Field Installation > About Conergy > > Conergy AG is one of the world's largest companies 100% dedicated to > renewable energy with an array of premium manufactured > products and over > 70,000 solar systems installed worldwide. > > Listed since 2005 on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange, the group pursues a > global growth strategy: it produces, installs and plans solar > systems for > its customers in more than 20 countries. > > The Conergy Group is now represented by branch offices on > four continents. > > In the US, Conergy is a manufacturer and distributor of > premium quality > solar electric, solar thermal, solar water pumping, and wind > power solutions > to a national network of authorized dealers. > > For additional information: > Don Massa > Product Manager - Conergy Mounting Systems > 2480 W. 26th Ave., Ste. 26-B > Denver, CO 80211 USA > 720-305-0716 (direct) > d.massa at conergy.us > > http://www.conergy.us/desktopdefault.aspx > > Conergy, Inc. > Phone: 505 473-3800 > Fax: 505 473-3830 > Toll Free: 888 396-6611 (USA) > > Santa Fe office: > 1730 Camino Carlos Rey, Suite 103 > Santa Fe, NM 87507 > > Albuquerque office: > 7007 Wyoming Blvd NE, Building C > Albuquerque, NM 87109 > > > http://www.nanosolar.com/cache/edn.htm > > News and New Products > A solar panel on every building > Claiming to be the first solar manufacturer capable of > profitably selling > solar panels that generate at as little as $0.99/W, Nanosolar > has shipped > its initial product after 5 years of development. > By John F. Mason, Contributing Editor -- Electronic Business, > 1/21/2008 > > After 5 years of product development, Palo Alto, Calif.-based > Nanosolar Inc > has shipped its first product. The lucky winner was a local > power plant > installation in Eastern Germany -- lucky because the > company's products are > sold out till 2009. > > Nanosolar's products boast an impressive list of the world's > firsts. R. > Martin Roscheisen, the company's CEO, recently announced the > first printed > thin-film solar cell in a commercial panel product, the > Nanosolar Utility > Panel; the first thin-film solar cell with a low-cost back-contact > capability; the lowest-cost solar panel, which would make > Nanosolar the > first solar manufacturer capable of profitably selling solar > panels that > generate at as little as $0.99/W; and the highest-current > thin-film solar > panel, delivering 5 times the current of any other thin-film > panel on the > market. > > One of the commercial panels will remain at Nanosolar for > exhibit; another > will go to the Tech Museum in San Jose; and a third was to be > auctioned off > on eBay, "which dropped the auction when they learned we > planned to give the > proceeds to charity," Roscheisen said. > > In April, Nanosolar broke the news that it had spent $100 > million to build a > plant to produce sheets of solar cells equipped with an > absorber 100 times > thinner than that needed for a silicon wafer cell that would deliver a > similar performance and the durability of a cell. Its sheets, > which were > cost-efficient for widespread deployment, could be > mass-produced on a global > scale and would be available in many versatile forms. They > were bendable and > designed to be durable for decades. The technology is based > on the economics > of printing non-vacuum/solution-coated material. > > The Department of Energy recently boosted the company's funds > and prestige > by choosing it for the high-profile Solar America Initiative > along with > SunPower, First Solar, and General Electric. > > "Following its sale to Germany, Nanosolar has a credible path toward > shipping $10 billion worth of high-ops-margin products to commercial > customers with a simple and predictable sales model," said Roscheisen > (pictured). "Even if we make this goal, the company would > still only have a > single-digit market-penetration percentage. So there will be > attractive > returns for long-term investors of all types and sizes. We > are also sold out > until 2009." > > Nanosolar maintains a worldwide network of partners for development, > manufacturing, and distribution. In August 2006, Nanosolar > and the Conergy > Group in Hamburg, Germany, signed a long-term agreement to develop > large-scale photovoltaic systems with a proprietary design to tightly > interconnect its panels on a variety of surfaces. Conergy's > knowledge and > expertise in the development and integration of > state-of-the-art components > and Nanosolar's experience in the design of solar cells and > panels based on > thin-film device technology will make Nanosolar's dream come > true: "a solar > panel on every building." > > On December 18, 2007, Nanosolar and Germany's Beck Energy, an > integrator of > large-scale solar power systems, announced having won a > highly competitive > public selection process for a solar power plant owned by one > of the largest > waste management companies in Eastern Germany. > > The project will employ the Nanosolar Utility Panel in > combination with > systems technology and services from Beck Energy. The initial > size of the > plant is 1 million watts, an amount sufficient to power > approximately 400 > homes. The Nanosolar Utility Panel is Nanosolar's first > product as part of > its award-winning PowerSheet product line and the company's > solution for > building solar power plants at the outskirts of urban centers. > > "This is the first time that a solar electricity cell and > panel have been > designed entirely and specifically for utility-scale power > generation," > Roscheisen said. "It will set the standard for green power > generation at > utility scale." > > Solar-electric power plants have advantages over solar-thermal plants, > coal-fired, and other conventional plants, as they are more > economical and > can be built in a variety of sizes and fit into places not > intended for > energy-producing plants, Nanosolar boasts. > > The company is preparing to offer solar electricity products to volume > business customers including the Nanosolar PowerSheet, a A-100 cell > technology delivered in an industry-standard package that > ensures premium > lifetime and full compatibility with existing mounting and > installation > practices; Nanosolar SolarPly, its flagship > building-integrated product that > acts as a solar-electric "carpet" for integration with > commercial roofing > membranes; and Nanosolar Utiliscale, a product specifically > designed for > large-scale, ground-mounted plant installations. > > The United States is number 1 in the world's potential for > solar growth. > With a newly installed total power of around 105 megawatts in > 2005, the US > market constitutes the 3rd largest for photovoltaics. Around > 75% of these > systems have been installed in California. According to a > number of studies, > the US photovoltaics market will grow to an annual installed > capacity of > between 300 to 400 megawatt peak by 2010. Conergy, through > its partnership > with Nanosolar, intends to substantially expand in North America. > > In Europe, Conergy is ahead of the game. With an expected > revenue of more > than $1.13 billion (800 million euros) in 2007 and 1,300 > employees, Conergy > is the largest solar company in Europe, and is also an international > supplier for wind and bioenergy companies. Conergy has branches on 5 > continents with plans to expand into North and South America, the > Mediterranean, Asia, and Australia. > > In the US, Conergy distributes solar products to its branches > from Santa Fe, > N.M. > > >From its affiliate SunTechnics Energy Systems Inc in > Sacramento, Calif., it > sells and installs renewable energy systems; and via Voltwerk > LLC in New > York it develops and finances large solar, wind, and > bioenergy projects. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conergy > [ more at initial URL..... ] > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > |
also Th!nk City electric car from Norway...: Guerin: Murray 2008.06.07
Hi Stephen, Some of us at Friam have talked about possible investments in alternative energy, so I thought this info about current tech on the market would be of interest, particularly with a local office -- maybe Conergy would like to connect with Santa Fe Complex. Conergy is now offering Nanosolar technology for affordable solar power for communities on the scale of El Dorado, which is just sort of thing that could be visualized on the sand table. Santa Fe could be a world leader as a community that switches from coal, gas, and nuclear to solar and wind power. If we also attract an assembly plant for the Th!nk City electric car from Norway, 124 mile daily range at 65 mph, then in a few years most pollution would be gone from our air, with major health benefits.....! In mutual service, Rich Murray 505-501-2298 rmforall at comcast.net http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/03/25/officially-official-th-nk-city-electric-car-on-sale-in-the-uk-t/ AutoblogGreen Officially official: Th!nk City electric car on sale in the UK this fall Posted Mar 25th 2008 3:10PM by Sebastian Blanco Filed under: EV/Plug-in, Green Daily, UK, Th!nk (Think) March has been a big month for Th!nk, with the news about $4m investments and the new Ox model out of Geneva. We knew EV fans in Norway would be able to buy a Th!nk City soon, and the good news for Britons is that the City will be available to order in the UK sometime "during the last quarter of this year." Smart Planet notes that the Th!nk City's running costs of around 1.25p a mile are a good place to be and "exactly halfway between the usual stated costs of the G-Wiz and the Mega City." While the Th!nk City does take longer to charge than some other EVs (10 hours at a standard plug vs. 4-6), you get more performance from it. 124 miles per charge being the big one; a little bit of punch with a 0-30 speed of 6.5 seconds being the other. UK buyers can expect to pay ?14,000 (just under $28,000US) for a Th!nk City - plus ?100 per month for a battery rental. Details after the jump. Gallery: Th!nk City Electric Vehicle Press Release: FIRST FULLY ELECTRIC CAR TO GO ON SALE IN THE UK UK motorists will soon be able to place orders to buy the first fully electric powered car later this year, when the new TH!NK city electric vehicle (EV) goes on sale in this country. Revealed at the 2008 Geneva Motor Show this month by Norwegian electric vehicle pioneers Think, a company with 17 years experience in EVs, the new TH!NK city will be available for customer orders during the last quarter of this year. TH!NK city is a true, modern urban car, not a quadricycle. It is a fully environmental vehicle, emission free and 95 percent recyclable. With an energy efficiency three times that of a traditional combustion engine car, it is a car that realistically meets the growing challenges of environmental protection and congestion and emissions legislation. The two seater urban car has a top speed of 65 miles per hour. It accelerates from zero to 30 mph in just 6.5 seconds and 50 mph in 16 seconds. It requires just an overnight top-up of electricity and can travel for 124 miles in city driving on a fully charged battery. A full charge from a domestic electricity socket takes just ten hours. Over 10,000 miles use, the total cost of electricity used to power a TH!NK city will be in the region of ?125. TH!NK city is designed to meet the strict safety requirements of both Europe and the US, as a highway-safe road car. The car is equipped with ABS brakes, airbags and three-point safety belts with pretensioners and it meets all European and US requirements with good margins. "Unlike the lower-range, electric quadricycles that have had limited success in the UK, TH!NK city is a real car which provides a realistic option for those motorists who want to drive a true zero emissions car," said Richard Blundell, Managing Director of Think UK. "Also, concern for the environment has been at the heart of the development of TH!NK city. It's not only environmentally sound to drive, but the car itself is designed to be recycled," he added. Engineers, developers, buyers and designers in the company have focused on utilising clean recyclable materials, non-polluting production processes. The dashboard can be completely recycled. The fabric, body, supports, air ducts, adhesives and fixings are designed using the same recyclable materials. TH!NK city's body is made of recyclable ABS plastic, designed specifically for city driving. Not only is it ideal for motorists want to avoid visible scratches and irritating dents, the unpainted plastic bodywork also reduces both energy consumption and toxins, while also making the panels easier to recycle. The batteries are returned to the supplier at the end of their useable life. Standard equipment on each TH!NK city includes power steering, central locking, a 4kW electric heater, and electric windows and mirrors. Optional equipment will include air conditioning, a pre-heat timer, electrically heated windscreen, full length sunroof, Radio CD with MP3, USB, Bluetooth, a navigation & multimedia system, alloy wheels, roof rack and 2 + 2 children seats (including 3-point seat belts) Production started last autumn, and the first batch of cars will be delivered to Norwegian customers this spring with orders for UK cars being taken in the last quarter of this year. The expected retail price of TH!NK city is ?14,000. Company history Think has been developing and producing urban mobility solutions since the early 1990s. Major investments made during the Ford ownership period contributed to an important infrastructural upgrade. New investors are now grooming Think as "The Car Company of the 21st Century." The first prototype predecessor to today's modern TH!NK city was developed in 1991. Drawing on 17 years of experience in electric vehicle development and production, Think is not a typical car industry start-up. TH!NK city was put in serial production in 1999, supported by American car giant Ford. Ford became a major shareholder and invested USD 150 million in Think during its four years as an owner. When Ford decided to leave the electric vehicle sector in 2003, Think was sold out of the car manufacturing group. Though struggling to survive, Think has always retained the basic infrastructure and acquired considerable competence from its American owners. During recent years, a wave of environmentalist conscience and climate change awareness has ripened the market for alternative mobility solutions. In 2006, Norwegian investors bought Think, and an experienced management team entered the scene. Both new and former staff members were added to the team, and a new strategy was outlined for the company. Further share issues during 2007 have prepared Think to go into regular serial production of the 5th generation TH!NK city. The car company of the 21st century is on the road. "We are the car company of the 21st century. We develop zero emission vehicles and sustainable solutions and we are proud to be launching TH!NK city in new markets in 2008 and 2009, something that shows that the demand for sustainable solutions and zero emission vehicles is greater than ever before," says Jan-Olaf Willums, CEO of Think Global. [Source: Th!nk, Smart Planet h/t to Adam V] Tags: th!nk, th!nk-city, th!nk-uk, think-city, think-ev, think-uk, thinkcity * Comments [11] Related Headlines * That Th!nk partnership announcement? Nothing to report (68 days ago - 3 Comments) * Th!nk will launch operations in America (47 days ago - 23 Comments) * EnerDel testing lithium-ion battery in a Th!nk City (67 days ago - 13 Comments) * Top Gear presenter, Richard Hammond plugs the Th!nk City (70 days ago - 5 Comments) * TH!NK could be put on sale in Australia (66 days ago - 7 Comments) Reader Comments (Page 1) 1. That's good news on a neat car. However, I wouldn't call that "officially official" until they actually start selling them. In the EV/HEV world, cars keep getting delayed on a regular basis. Posted at 3:58PM on Mar 25th 2008 by Karkus 2. Excellent news. I think this car will go down well in London. With regards the charge time, it shouldn't be too hard to run an extension from a socket on a high amp circuit like the kitchen. A kitchen will have maybe a 32 amp circuit compared with 15 amps standard. Could the on-board charger take a higher amperage and therefore charge quicker? Posted at 5:32PM on Mar 25th 2008 by Scatter 3. Any plans to bring it to North America? Especially Canada? Please? Posted at 6:15PM on Mar 25th 2008 by Mark 4. Can't see Th!nk selling more than a hundred of these, all of it in London. At its current price the vehicle is pointless. People can get brand new Aygo/C1/107 for half price of this thing and still get 60+ mpg from it. OK, I know about emission thing, but for general public it doesn't quite matter. Even road tax on Aygo is only 70 USD/year, so it's not a big deal. And you can seat 4 adults in Aygo/C1/107. It is also exempt (from this autumn) from London Congestion charge. I only wish that car makers could remember what made Prius a success - practicality! One can buy it and still use it as an everyday car, even if there is school run involved. Waiting for Whitestar... Or next-gen Prius. Posted at 6:59PM on Mar 25th 2008 by TheRookie 5. That is pretty awesome 124 mile range. That pretty good but it still is not as captivating and cute as the smart . i wish the smart company would come out with their own version boastings specs even higher than this. But i don't think this is officials because they are not selling them yet. Ev cars are always delayed and set back so until i can pick one up in the store then it wont even cross my mind. Posted at 8:14PM on Mar 25th 2008 by Kevin 6. Are the batteries on this thing thermo-isolated? They must be, if they're gonna be selling it in Norway... Posted at 7:24AM on Mar 26th 2008 by Petar Bogdanov 7. I like the Think but it's starting to sound a little too expensive, plus a battery rental. Is this a early-adapter price? Shouldn't an electric be less expensive then a hybrid? Posted at 2:58PM on Mar 26th 2008 by mike 8. Depending on where I will be located I am seriously considering buying one of these. The range and the speed make it a slam dunk for me. Right now I spend well over a hundred quid a month on fuel, so to stabilize fuel costs would be sweet. Posted at 7:10AM on Mar 27th 2008 by Dan Browne 9. I was told that the batteries used on the prototype smart electric cost $ 12,000 - that is why think is renting them - plus that covers any warranty issues. On the original think City you had to "equalize" the batteries every 2,500 miles. Evectric cars are VERY complicated devices that require a lot of cooling for all of the on board high voltage components. The energy loss climbing hills is amazing. You won't get much back on re-gen. Posted at 4:20PM on Mar 27th 2008 by JP Hedin aka DrSmart 10. For more details on Think's UK plans and prices, check out BusinessGreen.com - it has a detailed interview with Don Cochrane, Think's UK manager, and an audio interview too. http://www.businessgreen.com/business-green/analysis/2212579/interview-think-bring-electric Posted at 1:07PM on Mar 29th 2008 by Auto IT 11. The Think car is quite clever, and usable in a small town, or for local commuting. Hey Ford, why not buy distribution rights to the car you once owned? And attention, state governments, attention: start requiring 10% of all new vehicles sold to be electric, and soon, the change-over shall begin. "We can move into the new, oil scarcity era with grace, or we can move forward, screaming and kicking. But either way, the oil WILL run out." (quote from my uncle, a petrochemical engineer and geologist). Posted at 3:14PM on Mar 30th 2008 by jeffzekas -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Guerin" <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:23 PM To: "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'" <friam at redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Conergy Group CGY.DE, Santa Fe office, Frankfurt Stock Exchange, huge partner in NanoSolar, now a bargain at 14.16 Euros? Rich Murray 2008.05.25 2008.06.04 Rich, This mailing list is probably not the best place for stock analysis. -S |
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Steve,
Well, yes, except maybe for the curious skeptics inquiring into the "stock analysis" that goes unquestioned, that "what the country needs" is endlessly multiplying stock... That so many of nature's important developmental choices seem concentrated on that switch point, where that "stock analysis" of pumping things up meets diminishing returns or complications of some sort, and needs to be remade into something else, seems worth looking into. Wouldn't you agree? Phil Henshaw > > Rich, > > This mailing list is probably not the best place for stock analysis. > > -S > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rich Murray [mailto:rmforall at comcast.net] > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:13 PM > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > Subject: [FRIAM] Conergy Group CGY.DE, Santa Fe > > office,Frankfurt Stock Exchange, huge partner in > > NanoSolar,now a bargain at 14.16 Euros? Rich Murray > > 2008.05.25 2008.06.04 > > > > Conergy Group CGY.DE, Santa Fe office, Frankfurt Stock Exchange, huge > > partner in NanoSolar, now a bargain at 14.16 Euros? Rich > > Murray 2008.05.25 > > 2008.06.04 > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/message/77 for full text > > > > ! ? In mutual service, Rich Murray > > > > Rich Murray Room For All 1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > rmforall at comcast.net 505-501-2298 > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/ > > > > > > http://www.conergy.us/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-267/236_read-8849/ > > > > News > > Conergy Introduces SolarGiant Ground-Mount Array in North America > > 12 March 2008 > > > > Cost-effective and flexible solution, proven through extensive use in > > commercial, agricultural and utility scale PV installations > throughout > > Europe > > > > Denver, Colorado, March 12, 2008 -- Conergy introduced its > > SolarGiant NA > > ground-mounted PV array structure. Designed expressly for the > > North American > > market and intended for use in commercial through > > utility-scale PV projects, > > the SolarGiant NA provides a particularly flexible and > > cost-effective PV > > mounting solution. > > > > Key to the SolarGiant's cost-effectiveness is module installation and > > grounding. The SolarGiant uses a high-strength, proprietary > > rail system that > > allows modules to be simply slid into place, dramatically decreasing > > installation time. The SolarGiant's unique, proprietary Electriwedge > > grounding system, developed in cooperation with Wiley Electronics LLC > > quickly locks the modules in place and provides electrical continuity > > throughout the array. > > > > "We're excited about the SolarGiant NA and the unique features and > > advantages it brings to the commercial PV market," said Don > > Massa, Mounting > > Systems Product Manager for Conergy. "We recognize that labor > > costs make up > > a large portion of project's cost and the SolarGiant helps installers > > minimize that cost component while providing a structurally robust > and > > esthetically pleasing product." > > > > The fixed-tilt SolarGiant can be field-set for tilt angles > > from 15? to 35?. > > It can be mounted conventionally on or in caissons but was designed > > primarily for surface mounting on simple concrete footers. > > The SolarGiant's > > simplified structure has been carefully designed to reduce > > the number of > > labor- and cost-intensive mounting points while still allowing it to > > withstand wind loads up to 120mph. A Conergy SolarGiant White Paper > is > > available for download. > > > > Images: > > > > 3D Schematic > > > > Field Installation > > About Conergy > > > > Conergy AG is one of the world's largest companies 100% dedicated to > > renewable energy with an array of premium manufactured > > products and over > > 70,000 solar systems installed worldwide. > > > > Listed since 2005 on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange, the group pursues > a > > global growth strategy: it produces, installs and plans solar > > systems for > > its customers in more than 20 countries. > > > > The Conergy Group is now represented by branch offices on > > four continents. > > > > In the US, Conergy is a manufacturer and distributor of > > premium quality > > solar electric, solar thermal, solar water pumping, and wind > > power solutions > > to a national network of authorized dealers. > > > > For additional information: > > Don Massa > > Product Manager - Conergy Mounting Systems > > 2480 W. 26th Ave., Ste. 26-B > > Denver, CO 80211 USA > > 720-305-0716 (direct) > > d.massa at conergy.us > > > > http://www.conergy.us/desktopdefault.aspx > > > > Conergy, Inc. > > Phone: 505 473-3800 > > Fax: 505 473-3830 > > Toll Free: 888 396-6611 (USA) > > > > Santa Fe office: > > 1730 Camino Carlos Rey, Suite 103 > > Santa Fe, NM 87507 > > > > Albuquerque office: > > 7007 Wyoming Blvd NE, Building C > > Albuquerque, NM 87109 > > > > > > http://www.nanosolar.com/cache/edn.htm > > > > News and New Products > > A solar panel on every building > > Claiming to be the first solar manufacturer capable of > > profitably selling > > solar panels that generate at as little as $0.99/W, Nanosolar > > has shipped > > its initial product after 5 years of development. > > By John F. Mason, Contributing Editor -- Electronic Business, > > 1/21/2008 > > > > After 5 years of product development, Palo Alto, Calif.-based > > Nanosolar Inc > > has shipped its first product. The lucky winner was a local > > power plant > > installation in Eastern Germany -- lucky because the > > company's products are > > sold out till 2009. > > > > Nanosolar's products boast an impressive list of the world's > > firsts. R. > > Martin Roscheisen, the company's CEO, recently announced the > > first printed > > thin-film solar cell in a commercial panel product, the > > Nanosolar Utility > > Panel; the first thin-film solar cell with a low-cost back-contact > > capability; the lowest-cost solar panel, which would make > > Nanosolar the > > first solar manufacturer capable of profitably selling solar > > panels that > > generate at as little as $0.99/W; and the highest-current > > thin-film solar > > panel, delivering 5 times the current of any other thin-film > > panel on the > > market. > > > > One of the commercial panels will remain at Nanosolar for > > exhibit; another > > will go to the Tech Museum in San Jose; and a third was to be > > auctioned off > > on eBay, "which dropped the auction when they learned we > > planned to give the > > proceeds to charity," Roscheisen said. > > > > In April, Nanosolar broke the news that it had spent $100 > > million to build a > > plant to produce sheets of solar cells equipped with an > > absorber 100 times > > thinner than that needed for a silicon wafer cell that would deliver > a > > similar performance and the durability of a cell. Its sheets, > > which were > > cost-efficient for widespread deployment, could be > > mass-produced on a global > > scale and would be available in many versatile forms. They > > were bendable and > > designed to be durable for decades. The technology is based > > on the economics > > of printing non-vacuum/solution-coated material. > > > > The Department of Energy recently boosted the company's funds > > and prestige > > by choosing it for the high-profile Solar America Initiative > > along with > > SunPower, First Solar, and General Electric. > > > > "Following its sale to Germany, Nanosolar has a credible path toward > > shipping $10 billion worth of high-ops-margin products to commercial > > customers with a simple and predictable sales model," said Roscheisen > > (pictured). "Even if we make this goal, the company would > > still only have a > > single-digit market-penetration percentage. So there will be > > attractive > > returns for long-term investors of all types and sizes. We > > are also sold out > > until 2009." > > > > Nanosolar maintains a worldwide network of partners for development, > > manufacturing, and distribution. In August 2006, Nanosolar > > and the Conergy > > Group in Hamburg, Germany, signed a long-term agreement to develop > > large-scale photovoltaic systems with a proprietary design to tightly > > interconnect its panels on a variety of surfaces. Conergy's > > knowledge and > > expertise in the development and integration of > > state-of-the-art components > > and Nanosolar's experience in the design of solar cells and > > panels based on > > thin-film device technology will make Nanosolar's dream come > > true: "a solar > > panel on every building." > > > > On December 18, 2007, Nanosolar and Germany's Beck Energy, an > > integrator of > > large-scale solar power systems, announced having won a > > highly competitive > > public selection process for a solar power plant owned by one > > of the largest > > waste management companies in Eastern Germany. > > > > The project will employ the Nanosolar Utility Panel in > > combination with > > systems technology and services from Beck Energy. The initial > > size of the > > plant is 1 million watts, an amount sufficient to power > > approximately 400 > > homes. The Nanosolar Utility Panel is Nanosolar's first > > product as part of > > its award-winning PowerSheet product line and the company's > > solution for > > building solar power plants at the outskirts of urban centers. > > > > "This is the first time that a solar electricity cell and > > panel have been > > designed entirely and specifically for utility-scale power > > generation," > > Roscheisen said. "It will set the standard for green power > > generation at > > utility scale." > > > > Solar-electric power plants have advantages over solar-thermal > plants, > > coal-fired, and other conventional plants, as they are more > > economical and > > can be built in a variety of sizes and fit into places not > > intended for > > energy-producing plants, Nanosolar boasts. > > > > The company is preparing to offer solar electricity products to > volume > > business customers including the Nanosolar PowerSheet, a A-100 cell > > technology delivered in an industry-standard package that > > ensures premium > > lifetime and full compatibility with existing mounting and > > installation > > practices; Nanosolar SolarPly, its flagship > > building-integrated product that > > acts as a solar-electric "carpet" for integration with > > commercial roofing > > membranes; and Nanosolar Utiliscale, a product specifically > > designed for > > large-scale, ground-mounted plant installations. > > > > The United States is number 1 in the world's potential for > > solar growth. > > With a newly installed total power of around 105 megawatts in > > 2005, the US > > market constitutes the 3rd largest for photovoltaics. Around > > 75% of these > > systems have been installed in California. According to a > > number of studies, > > the US photovoltaics market will grow to an annual installed > > capacity of > > between 300 to 400 megawatt peak by 2010. Conergy, through > > its partnership > > with Nanosolar, intends to substantially expand in North America. > > > > In Europe, Conergy is ahead of the game. With an expected > > revenue of more > > than $1.13 billion (800 million euros) in 2007 and 1,300 > > employees, Conergy > > is the largest solar company in Europe, and is also an international > > supplier for wind and bioenergy companies. Conergy has branches on 5 > > continents with plans to expand into North and South America, the > > Mediterranean, Asia, and Australia. > > > > In the US, Conergy distributes solar products to its branches > > from Santa Fe, > > N.M. > > > > >From its affiliate SunTechnics Energy Systems Inc in > > Sacramento, Calif., it > > sells and installs renewable energy systems; and via Voltwerk > > LLC in New > > York it develops and finances large solar, wind, and > > bioenergy projects. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conergy > > [ more at initial URL..... ] > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Is Think City the company in Norway that Gov. Bill Richardson is visiting
next week? -tj On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Rich Murray <rmforall at comcast.net> wrote: > also Th!nk City electric car from Norway...: Guerin: Murray 2008.06.07 > > Hi Stephen, Some of us at Friam have talked about possible investments in > alternative energy, so I thought this info about current tech on the market > would be of interest, particularly with a local office -- > maybe Conergy would like to connect with Santa Fe Complex. Conergy is now > offering Nanosolar technology for affordable solar power for communities on > the scale of El Dorado, which is just sort of thing that could be > visualized > on the sand table. Santa Fe could be a world leader as a community that > switches from coal, gas, and nuclear to solar and wind power. > > If we also attract an assembly plant for the Th!nk City electric car from > Norway, 124 mile daily range at 65 mph, then in a few years most pollution > would be gone from our air, with major health benefits.....! > > In mutual service, Rich Murray 505-501-2298 rmforall at comcast.net > > > http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/03/25/officially-official-th-nk-city-electric-car-on-sale-in-the-uk-t/ > > AutoblogGreen > Officially official: Th!nk City electric car on sale in the UK this fall > > Posted Mar 25th 2008 3:10PM by Sebastian Blanco > Filed under: EV/Plug-in, Green Daily, UK, Th!nk (Think) > > March has been a big month for Th!nk, with the news about $4m investments > and the new Ox model out of Geneva. We knew EV fans in Norway would be able > to buy a Th!nk City soon, and the good news for Britons is that the City > will be available to order in the UK sometime "during the last quarter of > this year." Smart Planet notes that the Th!nk City's running costs of > around > 1.25p a mile are a good place to be and "exactly halfway between the usual > stated costs of the G-Wiz and the Mega City." While the Th!nk City does > take > longer to charge than some other EVs (10 hours at a standard plug vs. 4-6), > you get more performance from it. 124 miles per charge being the big one; a > little bit of punch with a 0-30 speed of 6.5 seconds being the other. UK > buyers can expect to pay ?14,000 (just under $28,000US) for a Th!nk City - > plus ?100 per month for a battery rental. Details after the jump. > > Gallery: Th!nk City Electric Vehicle > > J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA www.analyticjournalism.com 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) http://www.jtjohnson.com tom at jtjohnson.com "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller ========================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20080607/04781cbe/attachment.html |
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