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Search: Usually GMail: I have google set up as the MX mail server for my parrot-farm domain. Use it all the time. When you get mail from [hidden email], google did all the heavy lifting. Google has a nice set of mail domain management tools.
Calendar: Yes Maps: All the time, except for when google can't find a route from Haines, AK to Haines Junction, YT, CA. It's only about 200 miles, how hard could that be? GoogleEarth: Yes, To help plan out my Alaska/Canada motorcycle trips.
Google Translate: Occasionally Google Youtube: They own it, remember? I use it frequently Google Chrome browser: Yes. It's faster than Firefox. Blogspot.com: Yes, obviously.
Google Docs: Yes, to store media being served up on a variety of blogs. Google Images: Yes, ditto. Google Adsense: Yes! I actually made enough money from advertising on the first LANL blog to buy a nice dinner for two at El Meson.
Google Picassa: Yes. Google Talk: Occasionally. Chrome OS: No. No to the rest on Owen's list. --Doug
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Scary how much I live in the Google ecology. I don't use it in a very
integrated way either. But then beyond cut/paste what is there and what do I need? Wave promises to change that... but I don't get it yet. Me: Search: Always GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail (not-Gmail). Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. Google Maps: Almost exclusively. GoogleEarth: Often. Google Translate: Occasionally Google Youtube: Rarely. Google Chrome browser: No. Blogspot.com: Often. Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. Google Images: Often Google News: Some Google Shopping: Some Google Books: Some Google Scholar: Some Google Patents: Some Google Sketchup: Some Google Adsense: Never Google Picassa: Rarely. Google Talk: Rarely. Google Chrome OS: No. Google App Engine: Barely. Google Maps API: Once. Google Data API: No but I want to. Google Apps: Not Google Groups: Some. Google Code: Only to download. Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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The android phone doesn't make the list? Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration. Apple would never let that happen to their products. Android does have a good set of integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with google docs. It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on to an android phone and see your google persona inhabit it. I use: GMail: more so since I got the phone... not my primary email Google Calendar: yes Google Maps: yes GoogleEarth: yes -- mostly as a wonderful globe (can you imagine the value of that?) but with mashup data the potential is very intersting. Here is an interesting mashup: http://aprs.fi/ Google Translate: never, but I bet google does it fairly well. Google Youtube: of course. Google Chrome browser: yes. its not my primary browser because I like firefox's plugins. But I have nothing against it. Blogspot.com: yes, but only as a consumer. Google Docs: Yes, and they have some real power in their ability to make web forms that populate data in a spreadsheet. Part of the google ecology is waiting for users to find new creative ways to wire the thing up. Google Images: some. Google News: yes, and I mostly don't click through. Take that new york times... Google Shopping: what? never. Google Books: a handful of times. Who has the time to read anymore? Google Scholar: rarely see books. Google Patents: never Google Sketchup: once--but it was fun. Google Adsense: I've known those who do. Google Picassa: yes. And I am seriously thinking of going from iPhoto to picassa. Google Talk: seldom. Google Chrome OS: It hardly exists at this point. Google App Engine: Some. I like the idea of a painless build your own web application platform. And the google integration here gives you a whole crowd of people who can just sign onto your site as if they already belonged there through Google Accounts. Google Accounts: yes. Google needs to be working on joining (merging) accounts otherwise confusion ensues. Google Maps API: haven't. Google Data API: haven't. Google Apps: haven't but may soon. Google Groups: mangles attachments. Google Code: as a consumer. Google Wave: looks like a splash. Google Finance: no. Android: brings them together. But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful. Total integration could turn into a walled garden that stifles innovation. I think one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and as they do over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful. Re: walled garden another google product: http://www.dataliberation.org/ --joshua GMail: Google Calendar: Google Maps: GoogleEarth: Google Translate: Google Youtube: Google Chrome browser: Blogspot.com: Google Docs: Google Images: Google News: Google Shopping: Google Books: Google Scholar: Google Patents: Google Sketchup: Google Adsense: Google Picassa: Google Talk: Google Chrome OS: Google App Engine: Google Accounts: Google Maps API: Google Data API: Google Apps: Google Groups: Google Code: Google Wave: Google Finance: > Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail > GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. > Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. > Google Maps: Almost exclusively. > GoogleEarth: Often. > Google Translate: Occasionally > Google Youtube: Rarely. > Google Chrome browser: No. > Blogspot.com: Often. > Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. > Google Images: Often > Google News: Some > Google Shopping: Some > Google Books: Some > Google Scholar: Some > Google Patents: Some > Google Sketchup: Some > Google Adsense: Never > Google Picassa: Rarely. > Google Talk: Rarely. > Google Chrome OS: No. > Google App Engine: Barely. > Google Maps API: Once. > Google Data API: No but I want to. > Google Apps: Not > Google Groups: Some. > Google Code: Only to download. > Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. > Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > Scary how much I live in the Google ecology. I don't use it in a very integrated way either. But then beyond cut/paste what is there and what do I need? Wave promises to change that... but I don't get it yet. > > Me: > > Search: Always > GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail (not-Gmail). > Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. > Google Maps: Almost exclusively. > GoogleEarth: Often. > Google Translate: Occasionally > Google Youtube: Rarely. > Google Chrome browser: No. > Blogspot.com: Often. > Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. > Google Images: Often > Google News: Some > Google Shopping: Some > Google Books: Some > Google Scholar: Some > Google Patents: Some > Google Sketchup: Some > Google Adsense: Never > Google Picassa: Rarely. > Google Talk: Rarely. > Google Chrome OS: No. > Google App Engine: Barely. > Google Maps API: Once. > Google Data API: No but I want to. > Google Apps: Not > Google Groups: Some. > Google Code: Only to download. > Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. > Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Josh,
Google groups mangles attachments? Tell me a little more about that. As for the rest, I think google groups has real promise. The help mechanism is a little disconcerting, but it has a lot of the look and feel of BlackBoard and even has wiki=like features and versioning. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([hidden email]) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: Joshua Thorp <[hidden email]> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> > Date: 2/10/2010 8:28:36 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives > > > The android phone doesn't make the list? > Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration. Apple would never let that happen to their products. Android does have a good set of integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with google docs. It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on to an android phone and see your google persona inhabit it. > > I use: > > GMail: more so since I got the phone... not my primary email > Google Calendar: yes > Google Maps: yes > GoogleEarth: yes -- mostly as a wonderful globe (can you imagine the value of that?) but with mashup data the potential is very intersting. Here is an interesting mashup: http://aprs.fi/ > Google Translate: never, but I bet google does it fairly well. > Google Youtube: of course. > Google Chrome browser: yes. its not my primary browser because I like firefox's plugins. But I have nothing against it. > Blogspot.com: yes, but only as a consumer. > Google Docs: Yes, and they have some real power in their ability to make web forms that populate data in a spreadsheet. Part of the google ecology is waiting for users to find new creative ways to wire the thing up. > Google Images: some. > Google News: yes, and I mostly don't click through. Take that new york times... > Google Shopping: what? never. > Google Books: a handful of times. Who has the time to read anymore? > Google Scholar: rarely see books. > Google Patents: never > Google Sketchup: once--but it was fun. > Google Adsense: I've known those who do. > Google Picassa: yes. And I am seriously thinking of going from iPhoto to picassa. > Google Talk: seldom. > Google Chrome OS: It hardly exists at this point. > Google App Engine: Some. I like the idea of a painless build your own web application platform. And the google integration here gives you a whole crowd of people who can just sign onto your site as if they already belonged there through Google Accounts. > Google Accounts: yes. Google needs to be working on joining (merging) accounts otherwise confusion ensues. > Google Maps API: haven't. > Google Data API: haven't. > Google Apps: haven't but may soon. > Google Groups: mangles attachments. > Google Code: as a consumer. > Google Wave: looks like a splash. > Google Finance: no. > Android: brings them together. > > > But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful. I think one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and as they do over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful. > > Re: walled garden another google product: > http://www.dataliberation.org/ > > > --joshua > > GMail: > Google Calendar: > Google Maps: > GoogleEarth: > Google Translate: > Google Youtube: > Google Chrome browser: > Blogspot.com: > Google Docs: > Google Images: > Google News: > Google Shopping: > Google Books: > Google Scholar: > Google Patents: > Google Sketchup: > Google Adsense: > Google Picassa: > Google Talk: > Google Chrome OS: > Google App Engine: > Google Accounts: > Google Maps API: > Google Data API: > Google Apps: > Google Groups: > Google Code: > Google Wave: > Google Finance: > > > > Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail > > > GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. > > Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. > > Google Maps: Almost exclusively. > > GoogleEarth: Often. > > Google Translate: Occasionally > > Google Youtube: Rarely. > > Google Chrome browser: No. > > Blogspot.com: Often. > > Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. > > Google Images: Often > > Google News: Some > > Google Shopping: Some > > Google Books: Some > > Google Scholar: Some > > Google Patents: Some > > Google Sketchup: Some > > Google Adsense: Never > > Google Picassa: Rarely. > > Google Talk: Rarely. > > Google Chrome OS: No. > > Google App Engine: Barely. > > Google Maps API: Once. > > Google Data API: No but I want to. > > Google Apps: Not > > Google Groups: Some. > > Google Code: Only to download. > > Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. > > Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, > > On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > Scary how much I live in the Google ecology. I don't use it in a very integrated way either. But then beyond cut/paste what is there and what do I need? Wave promises to change that... but I don't get it yet. > > > > Me: > > > > Search: Always > > GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail (not-Gmail). > > Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. > > Google Maps: Almost exclusively. > > GoogleEarth: Often. > > Google Translate: Occasionally > > Google Youtube: Rarely. > > Google Chrome browser: No. > > Blogspot.com: Often. > > Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. > > Google Images: Often > > Google News: Some > > Google Shopping: Some > > Google Books: Some > > Google Scholar: Some > > Google Patents: Some > > Google Sketchup: Some > > Google Adsense: Never > > Google Picassa: Rarely. > > Google Talk: Rarely. > > Google Chrome OS: No. > > Google App Engine: Barely. > > Google Maps API: Once. > > Google Data API: No but I want to. > > Google Apps: Not > > Google Groups: Some. > > Google Code: Only to download. > > Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. > > Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Boy did I forget a lot of their services:
http://www.google.com/intl/en/options/ .. this is kinda fun! Attached is the list. I certainly did not know about Google Health, for example, and I forgot about Goog-411 which I use a LOT when traveling, ditto Scholar, iGoogle, SketchUp, Mobile, Reader and more. And Google for iPhone is absfab. Sigh. I guess I *am* hooked. A *very* useful stunt is using the Google proxy which reduces the size of web pages. All you have to do is have this url: http://www.google.com/gwt/n .. and it will let you search and go to a url that is stripped of its "fat" and made easy to use on your phone. -- Owen Alerts Blog Search Books Buzz Checkout Google Chrome Custom Search Desktop Dictionary Directory Earth Finance GOOG-411 Google Health iGoogle Images Maps News Patent Search Product Search Scholar Toolbar Trends Videos Web Search Web Search Features Code Labs Blogger Calendar Docs Groups Knol Google Mail Orkut Picasa Reader Sites SketchUp Talk Translate YouTube Mobile Maps for mobile Search for mobile Pack ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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It is on the other hand important to note that google has a public exhibitionist side, trying to get us all to all hang out (if you are embarrassed you probably shouldn't be doing it see: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091208/0221047243.shtml). Here is a rant on the privacy issues of Buzz which looks huge. Social networking is putting people in the deep end of exposure without warning or careful thinking about the implications: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-10451428-256.html
We use a google groups e-mail list and as far as I recall zip files are not allowed and starlogo TNG text files end up with all of their <space> characters replaced with =20 which isn't helpful (i.e. it breaks the file). I'm sure this is the nature of the e-mail technology they are using but still isn't helpful. --joshua On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Josh, > > Google groups mangles attachments? Tell me a little more about that. > > As for the rest, I think google groups has real promise. The help > mechanism is a little disconcerting, but it has a lot of the look and feel > of BlackBoard and even has wiki=like features and versioning. > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > Clark University ([hidden email]) > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Joshua Thorp <[hidden email]> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> >> Date: 2/10/2010 8:28:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives >> >> >> The android phone doesn't make the list? >> Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration. Apple would > never let that happen to their products. Android does have a good set of > integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with > google docs. It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on to > an android phone and see your google persona inhabit it. >> >> I use: >> >> GMail: more so since I got the phone... not my primary email >> Google Calendar: yes >> Google Maps: yes >> GoogleEarth: yes -- mostly as a wonderful globe (can you imagine the > value of that?) but with mashup data the potential is very intersting. > Here is an interesting mashup: http://aprs.fi/ >> Google Translate: never, but I bet google does it fairly well. >> Google Youtube: of course. >> Google Chrome browser: yes. its not my primary browser because I like > firefox's plugins. But I have nothing against it. >> Blogspot.com: yes, but only as a consumer. >> Google Docs: Yes, and they have some real power in their ability to make > web forms that populate data in a spreadsheet. Part of the google ecology > is waiting for users to find new creative ways to wire the thing up. >> Google Images: some. >> Google News: yes, and I mostly don't click through. Take that new york > times... >> Google Shopping: what? never. >> Google Books: a handful of times. Who has the time to read anymore? >> Google Scholar: rarely see books. >> Google Patents: never >> Google Sketchup: once--but it was fun. >> Google Adsense: I've known those who do. >> Google Picassa: yes. And I am seriously thinking of going from iPhoto to > picassa. >> Google Talk: seldom. >> Google Chrome OS: It hardly exists at this point. >> Google App Engine: Some. I like the idea of a painless build your own > web application platform. And the google integration here gives you a > whole crowd of people who can just sign onto your site as if they already > belonged there through Google Accounts. >> Google Accounts: yes. Google needs to be working on joining (merging) > accounts otherwise confusion ensues. >> Google Maps API: haven't. >> Google Data API: haven't. >> Google Apps: haven't but may soon. >> Google Groups: mangles attachments. >> Google Code: as a consumer. >> Google Wave: looks like a splash. >> Google Finance: no. >> Android: brings them together. >> >> >> But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful. > Total integration could turn into a walled garden that stifles innovation. > I think one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and as > they do over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful. >> >> Re: walled garden another google product: >> http://www.dataliberation.org/ >> >> >> --joshua >> >> GMail: >> Google Calendar: >> Google Maps: >> GoogleEarth: >> Google Translate: >> Google Youtube: >> Google Chrome browser: >> Blogspot.com: >> Google Docs: >> Google Images: >> Google News: >> Google Shopping: >> Google Books: >> Google Scholar: >> Google Patents: >> Google Sketchup: >> Google Adsense: >> Google Picassa: >> Google Talk: >> Google Chrome OS: >> Google App Engine: >> Google Accounts: >> Google Maps API: >> Google Data API: >> Google Apps: >> Google Groups: >> Google Code: >> Google Wave: >> Google Finance: >> >> >>> Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail >> >>> GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. >>> Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. >>> Google Maps: Almost exclusively. >>> GoogleEarth: Often. >>> Google Translate: Occasionally >>> Google Youtube: Rarely. >>> Google Chrome browser: No. >>> Blogspot.com: Often. >>> Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. >>> Google Images: Often >>> Google News: Some >>> Google Shopping: Some >>> Google Books: Some >>> Google Scholar: Some >>> Google Patents: Some >>> Google Sketchup: Some >>> Google Adsense: Never >>> Google Picassa: Rarely. >>> Google Talk: Rarely. >>> Google Chrome OS: No. >>> Google App Engine: Barely. >>> Google Maps API: Once. >>> Google Data API: No but I want to. >>> Google Apps: Not >>> Google Groups: Some. >>> Google Code: Only to download. >>> Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. >>> Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, > motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. >> >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Steve Smith wrote: >> >>> Scary how much I live in the Google ecology. I don't use it in a very > integrated way either. But then beyond cut/paste what is there and what do > I need? Wave promises to change that... but I don't get it yet. >>> >>> Me: >>> >>> Search: Always >>> GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. Google Login allows you to > use your own e-mail (not-Gmail). >>> Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. >>> Google Maps: Almost exclusively. >>> GoogleEarth: Often. >>> Google Translate: Occasionally >>> Google Youtube: Rarely. >>> Google Chrome browser: No. >>> Blogspot.com: Often. >>> Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. >>> Google Images: Often >>> Google News: Some >>> Google Shopping: Some >>> Google Books: Some >>> Google Scholar: Some >>> Google Patents: Some >>> Google Sketchup: Some >>> Google Adsense: Never >>> Google Picassa: Rarely. >>> Google Talk: Rarely. >>> Google Chrome OS: No. >>> Google App Engine: Barely. >>> Google Maps API: Once. >>> Google Data API: No but I want to. >>> Google Apps: Not >>> Google Groups: Some. >>> Google Code: Only to download. >>> Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. >>> Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, > motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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I'm amazed that no one has yet mentioned Google Sites.
-- Russ Abbott _____________________________________________ Professor, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles Cell phone: 310-621-3805 o Check out my blog at http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Joshua Thorp <[hidden email]> wrote: It is on the other hand important to note that google has a public exhibitionist side, trying to get us all to all hang out (if you are embarrassed you probably shouldn't be doing it see: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091208/0221047243.shtml). Here is a rant on the privacy issues of Buzz which looks huge. Social networking is putting people in the deep end of exposure without warning or careful thinking about the implications: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-10451428-256.html ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Joshua Thorp wrote:
> The android phone doesn't make the list? > Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration. Apple would never let that happen to their products. Android does have a good set of integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with google docs. It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on to an android phone and see your google persona inhabit it. > I'm an Apple Fanboi of sorts but I have to say that it took them 30 years to get to where they are and Google has eclipsed them in many ways in less than 10. I don't see GOOG out to thrash APPL like they are after MSFT but I think they are definitely caught in the backscatter of that. Google stands on the backs of giants like Apple, Microsoft, Sun and many others, and they do it with style and grace and energy. I only wish our federal government could be as scrappy... there was a moment in the campaign when I thought maybe... <snip> > But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful. Total integration could turn into a walled garden that stifles innovation. I think one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and as they do over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful. > Yes, the walled gardens of MSFT and APPL have their limitations. I'm sorry that Sun's drive to avoid the walled garden did not lead them to thrive in the long term. The darwinian aspect of Google's ecology is important. I think Owen's concern about Google's limited coherence is a little like going to a zoo with Australian flora and fauna and questioning "God's Plan". - Steve ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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