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Owen Densmore

Broadband Bandwidth .. and Higher Bandwidth Options

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Folks: I've been looking into better network performance.

I first checked out my speed using one of the La Ca?ada Wireless links:
http://webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/
This gave me a 177 kbps value. Naturally this is not very precise, but
was at least an indication that my speeds are not very near the touted
640K/256K values of my dsl plan.

I then tried the second link on La Ca?ada :
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
It got a bit higher value: 183. It also suggested other providers that
I might try. This included Covad, a message attached. I also started
looking into cable, which most folks feel is better than DSL. I
suspect this is a bit tricky because cable seems great if you are an
early user due to the shared bandwidth model it uses: all the folks in
the neignborhood share a 1.5Mbps downlink and generally a 640 or so
uplink.

So my question to us is:
- Do folks get same|better|worse bandwidth performance than I get?
- What technology/provider do you use?
- Any input on how to get better bandwidth?

Owen

Begin forwarded message:

> From: <[hidden email]>
> Date: December 29, 2003 6:20:34 AM MST
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: SmallBizManager/All Internet Now T1 Inquiry
>
> Hi,
> I?ve received your inquiry for T-1 service from
> SmallBizManager, and I?d like to tell you what Covad has
> available for your location.
>
> ADSL TeleSoho 1.5m/384k $69.95 per month
> Router $199.00 and a $199.00 mail in rebate on the router.
> And if you need 5 static IP's, it is just $10 more
> per month.
> 30 Day Guarantee
>
> Web Space:10 MB of web space. This address would be
> http://home.covad.net/~username. Here you can host your own
> website 15 E-mail Addresses: 15 email boxes within Covad.net
> Dial up Access: Free while awaiting installation, 10
> hours/month free after that.
>
> Adsl is a best effort service, there is no sla with adsl.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Business Grade SDSL(TeleSpeed)
>
> 384k/384k $159.95
> 768k/768k $209.95
> 1.5m/1.5m $299.95
>
> 30 Day Guarantee
>
> Web Space :10 MB of web space. This address would be
> http://home.covad.net/~username. Here you can host your own
> website SLA 99.9% up time, Installation, Availability, and
> Performance. We promise outstanding network performance and
> availability, along with minimal waiting for installation and
> issue credits to your account if we don't deliver on that
> promise.
> 15 E-mail Addresses: 15 email boxes within Covad.net
> Dial up Access: Free while awaiting installation, 10
> hours/month free after that.
> Either 1 static ip on the lan
> side of the router and nat or 5 static ips come with the
> service.
> Router: Netopia R4652T $359.00
> Install $225.00
> $434.00 Mail in Rebate
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Business Grade T-1 service : Pricing thru 12/31/03
>
> is available to you at :
> 1.5m/1.5m $599.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 1.5m/1.5m $589.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Fractional:
> 768/768 $529.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 768/768 $519.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Fractional:
> 384/384 $419.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 384/384 $409.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Install: Free
> 30 Day Guarantee
> Dedicated 800 Support line for T-1 Support
>
> Router:Netopia 4622-XL router: $599.00 and a $75 mail-in
> rebate: This is a Business class T1 router with integrated
> 8-port 10//100 Base-T managed Ethernet switch, integrated
> CSU/DSU, capability for Network Address Translation and dynamic
> or static IP addressing
>
> 5 usable static ips included with service
>
> Service Level Agreement SLA: 99.99% At Covad, we stand behind
> our promise of uncompromising quality by providing Service
> Level Agreements on our Business-Class TeleXtend T1 access
> service. Be confident that you truly can Connect Smarter with
> Covad.
>
> Additional Static Ip Address?s
> 13 usable for $10.00 per month
> 29 usable for $15.00 per month
> 61 usable for $20.00 per month
> 125 usable for $25.00 per month
> 253 usable for $50.00 per month
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> We also have some great web hosting packages.
>
> Please call me for more details or to place your order, I look
> forward to speaking with you soon.
>
> Susan Morrison
> Covad Internet Consultant
> Covad Communications
> 866-656-8757x6059
> Eastern 8-5

Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505
[hidden email] Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787
AIM:owendensmore http://complexityworkshop.com http://backspaces.net

Robert Holmes

Broadband Bandwidth .. and Higher Bandwidth Options

1.4 Mbps via Comcast cable. Let's hope my neighbours don't start using it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
Of Owen Densmore
Sent: 29 December 2003 13:18
To: The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: [FRIAM] Broadband Bandwidth .. and Higher Bandwidth Options

Folks: I've been looking into better network performance.

I first checked out my speed using one of the La Ca?ada Wireless links:
http://webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/
This gave me a 177 kbps value. Naturally this is not very precise, but
was at least an indication that my speeds are not very near the touted
640K/256K values of my dsl plan.

I then tried the second link on La Ca?ada :
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
It got a bit higher value: 183. It also suggested other providers that
I might try. This included Covad, a message attached. I also started
looking into cable, which most folks feel is better than DSL. I
suspect this is a bit tricky because cable seems great if you are an
early user due to the shared bandwidth model it uses: all the folks in
the neignborhood share a 1.5Mbps downlink and generally a 640 or so
uplink.

So my question to us is:
- Do folks get same|better|worse bandwidth performance than I get?
- What technology/provider do you use?
- Any input on how to get better bandwidth?

Owen

Begin forwarded message:

> From: <[hidden email]>
> Date: December 29, 2003 6:20:34 AM MST
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: SmallBizManager/All Internet Now T1 Inquiry
>
> Hi,
> I?ve received your inquiry for T-1 service from SmallBizManager, and
> I?d like to tell you what Covad has available for your location.
>
> ADSL TeleSoho 1.5m/384k $69.95 per month
> Router $199.00 and a $199.00 mail in rebate on the router. And if
> you need 5 static IP's, it is just $10 more per month.
> 30 Day Guarantee
>
> Web Space:10 MB of web space. This address would be
> http://home.covad.net/~username. Here you can host your own website 15
> E-mail Addresses: 15 email boxes within Covad.net Dial up Access:
> Free while awaiting installation, 10 hours/month free after that.
>
> Adsl is a best effort service, there is no sla with adsl.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Business Grade SDSL(TeleSpeed)
>
> 384k/384k $159.95
> 768k/768k $209.95
> 1.5m/1.5m $299.95
>
> 30 Day Guarantee
>
> Web Space :10 MB of web space. This address would be
> http://home.covad.net/~username. Here you can host your own website
> SLA 99.9% up time, Installation, Availability, and Performance. We
> promise outstanding network performance and availability, along with
> minimal waiting for installation and issue credits to your account if
> we don't deliver on that promise.
> 15 E-mail Addresses: 15 email boxes within Covad.net
> Dial up Access: Free while awaiting installation, 10
> hours/month free after that.
> Either 1 static ip on the lan
> side of the router and nat or 5 static ips come with the
> service.
> Router: Netopia R4652T $359.00
> Install $225.00
> $434.00 Mail in Rebate
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Business Grade T-1 service : Pricing thru 12/31/03
>
> is available to you at :
> 1.5m/1.5m $599.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 1.5m/1.5m $589.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Fractional:
> 768/768 $529.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 768/768 $519.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Fractional:
> 384/384 $419.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 384/384 $409.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Install: Free
> 30 Day Guarantee
> Dedicated 800 Support line for T-1 Support
>
> Router:Netopia 4622-XL router: $599.00 and a $75 mail-in
> rebate: This is a Business class T1 router with integrated 8-port
> 10//100 Base-T managed Ethernet switch, integrated CSU/DSU, capability
> for Network Address Translation and dynamic or static IP addressing
>
> 5 usable static ips included with service
>
> Service Level Agreement SLA: 99.99% At Covad, we stand behind our
> promise of uncompromising quality by providing Service Level
> Agreements on our Business-Class TeleXtend T1 access service. Be
> confident that you truly can Connect Smarter with Covad.
>
> Additional Static Ip Address?s
> 13 usable for $10.00 per month
> 29 usable for $15.00 per month
> 61 usable for $20.00 per month
> 125 usable for $25.00 per month
> 253 usable for $50.00 per month
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> We also have some great web hosting packages.
>
> Please call me for more details or to place your order, I look forward
> to speaking with you soon.
>
> Susan Morrison
> Covad Internet Consultant
> Covad Communications
> 866-656-8757x6059
> Eastern 8-5

Joe Spinden

Broadband Bandwidth .. and Higher Bandwidth Options

698 kbps via dion.ne.jp.

different menu with my option, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
Of Robert Holmes
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 9:36 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group'
Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Broadband Bandwidth .. and Higher Bandwidth Options

1.4 Mbps via Comcast cable. Let's hope my neighbours don't start using it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
Of Owen Densmore
Sent: 29 December 2003 13:18
To: The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: [FRIAM] Broadband Bandwidth .. and Higher Bandwidth Options

Folks: I've been looking into better network performance.

I first checked out my speed using one of the La Ca?ada Wireless links:
http://webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/
This gave me a 177 kbps value. Naturally this is not very precise, but
was at least an indication that my speeds are not very near the touted
640K/256K values of my dsl plan.

I then tried the second link on La Ca?ada :
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
It got a bit higher value: 183. It also suggested other providers that
I might try. This included Covad, a message attached. I also started
looking into cable, which most folks feel is better than DSL. I
suspect this is a bit tricky because cable seems great if you are an
early user due to the shared bandwidth model it uses: all the folks in
the neignborhood share a 1.5Mbps downlink and generally a 640 or so
uplink.

So my question to us is:
- Do folks get same|better|worse bandwidth performance than I get?
- What technology/provider do you use?
- Any input on how to get better bandwidth?

Owen

Begin forwarded message:

> From: <[hidden email]>
> Date: December 29, 2003 6:20:34 AM MST
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: SmallBizManager/All Internet Now T1 Inquiry
>
> Hi,
> I?ve received your inquiry for T-1 service from SmallBizManager, and
> I?d like to tell you what Covad has available for your location.
>
> ADSL TeleSoho 1.5m/384k $69.95 per month
> Router $199.00 and a $199.00 mail in rebate on the router. And if
> you need 5 static IP's, it is just $10 more per month.
> 30 Day Guarantee
>
> Web Space:10 MB of web space. This address would be
> http://home.covad.net/~username. Here you can host your own website 15
> E-mail Addresses: 15 email boxes within Covad.net Dial up Access:
> Free while awaiting installation, 10 hours/month free after that.
>
> Adsl is a best effort service, there is no sla with adsl.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Business Grade SDSL(TeleSpeed)
>
> 384k/384k $159.95
> 768k/768k $209.95
> 1.5m/1.5m $299.95
>
> 30 Day Guarantee
>
> Web Space :10 MB of web space. This address would be
> http://home.covad.net/~username. Here you can host your own website
> SLA 99.9% up time, Installation, Availability, and Performance. We
> promise outstanding network performance and availability, along with
> minimal waiting for installation and issue credits to your account if
> we don't deliver on that promise.
> 15 E-mail Addresses: 15 email boxes within Covad.net
> Dial up Access: Free while awaiting installation, 10
> hours/month free after that.
> Either 1 static ip on the lan
> side of the router and nat or 5 static ips come with the
> service.
> Router: Netopia R4652T $359.00
> Install $225.00
> $434.00 Mail in Rebate
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Business Grade T-1 service : Pricing thru 12/31/03
>
> is available to you at :
> 1.5m/1.5m $599.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 1.5m/1.5m $589.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Fractional:
> 768/768 $529.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 768/768 $519.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Fractional:
> 384/384 $419.00/mo for a one year agreement
> 384/384 $409.00/mo for a two year commitment
>
> Install: Free
> 30 Day Guarantee
> Dedicated 800 Support line for T-1 Support
>
> Router:Netopia 4622-XL router: $599.00 and a $75 mail-in
> rebate: This is a Business class T1 router with integrated 8-port
> 10//100 Base-T managed Ethernet switch, integrated CSU/DSU, capability
> for Network Address Translation and dynamic or static IP addressing
>
> 5 usable static ips included with service
>
> Service Level Agreement SLA: 99.99% At Covad, we stand behind our
> promise of uncompromising quality by providing Service Level
> Agreements on our Business-Class TeleXtend T1 access service. Be
> confident that you truly can Connect Smarter with Covad.
>
> Additional Static Ip Address?s
> 13 usable for $10.00 per month
> 29 usable for $15.00 per month
> 61 usable for $20.00 per month
> 125 usable for $25.00 per month
> 253 usable for $50.00 per month
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> We also have some great web hosting packages.
>
> Please call me for more details or to place your order, I look forward
> to speaking with you soon.
>
> Susan Morrison
> Covad Internet Consultant
> Covad Communications
> 866-656-8757x6059
> Eastern 8-5

Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505
[hidden email] Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787
AIM:owendensmore http://complexityworkshop.com http://backspaces.net

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Gary Schiltz-3

Broadband Bandwidth .. and Higher Bandwidth Options

In reply to this post by Owen Densmore

Oh, quit your moaning and groaning, at least you can GET broadband :-) But
seriously, I'd be glad to be able to just get a decent 28.8 dialup connection
out in the wilds of Pecos (does my envy show? :-)

// Gary

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
To: The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Sent: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:18:12 -0700
Subject: [FRIAM] Broadband Bandwidth .. and Higher Bandwidth Options

> Folks: I've been looking into better network performance.
>
> I first checked out my speed using one of the La Ca?ada Wireless links:
> http://webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/
> This gave me a 177 kbps value. Naturally this is not very precise,
> but was at least an indication that my speeds are not very near the
> touted 640K/256K values of my dsl plan.
>
> I then tried the second link on La Ca?ada :
> http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
> It got a bit higher value: 183. It also suggested other providers
> that I might try. This included Covad, a message attached. I also
> started looking into cable, which most folks feel is better than
> DSL. I suspect this is a bit tricky because cable seems great if
> you are an early user due to the shared bandwidth model it uses: all
> the folks in the neignborhood share a 1.5Mbps downlink and generally
> a 640 or so uplink.
>
> So my question to us is:
> - Do folks get same|better|worse bandwidth performance than I get?
> - What technology/provider do you use?
> - Any input on how to get better bandwidth?
>
> Owen
>