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It's getting close to that time of year when I tell my relatives which books I would like to receive for Christmas. (This is looked on as a favor as I am otherwise a tough person to shop for). I have already gotten some good leads (including the David Wilson books and The Hemingses and Paul Krugman). I would be delighted to receive more suggestions. John ________________________________________ From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Sadd [[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:51 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Election: Why So Close Tom, of course the question "Why isn't Obama white?" is perfectly valid. Most of us supposedly enlightened types would like to think that we all agree that, especially in a world where intermingling of a genetic nature among traditional genetic groups has made the notion of "race" fairly undefinable, it is of course not yet irrelevant. There are presumably genetic reasons why the children of mixed-race marriages between "Caucasians" and descendents of sub-Saharan Africans tend on average to preserve more of the physical traits of their African heritage, which contributes to our ease of identifying a Barack Obama as "black", without qualification. But our own sordid history as a nation of course also contributes to how we tend to identify people. (And how interesting it is that all the false reports of Obama being a closet Muslim -- and the assumptions that that would make him a terrorist by association -- seem to have trumped at least public debates about his being black. I suppose it's just that the rumor-mongers know that they have to be more careful about racial epithets than non-American-standard religious ones.) Another couple of interesting data points (recognizing that I'm getting wildly off-topic here): My wife, who somewhat to her chagrin is descended from a number of prominent slave-owning southerners, is reading the book The Hemingses of Monticello, which sounds fascinating. Jefferson's relationship with Sally Hemings was of course no aberration. I think one of the basic tenets of the book (which I haven't read yet) is that basically everybody on the plantation was related, and they all knew it. If I remember correctly, Sally Hemings was a blood relative of Jefferson's wife. So we have a long tradition of carefully identifying the children of (typically) the rape of a black (slave) woman by a white man as black, so that they could clearly be identified as slaves. (Interesting point of comparison -- continuing wildly off-topic): White Australians discovered that the distinctive physical traits of aborigines tend to disappear much more quickly on average when they intermarry or otherwise mix genes with whites, maybe because the original gene pool of those aboriginal settlers must have been pretty small. So the Australian government took exactly the opposite tack of our own nation, and went through a period --shockingly recent -- of kidnapping young aboriginal children from their families, raising them in their equivalent of Indian schools, and encouraging poor whites to marry them, in effect to wash away the aboriginal blood. If you haven't seen it, rent the wonderful Australian film Rabbit-Proof Fence on this subject. While I'm in book review mode, I am reading Paul Krugman's excellent book The Conscience of a Liberal, which I highly recommend to anyone trying to figure out how to save "liberal" from being a dirty word. Enough. john On Oct 31, 2008, at 1:30 PM, Tom Carter wrote: > All - > > I'm not singling out John for this comment, but just using it as a > trigger . . . > > On Oct 31, 2008, at 11:45 AM, John Sadd wrote: > >> it is totally effing amazing that a black man > > which raises the question, "Why isn't Obama white?" > > If that question sounds silly to you, think a little about how > deeply you and I and everyone seem to have internalized the "Jim > Crow one drop rule" (i.e., one drop of "black" blood makes you > black . . .). > > Part of the trouble is that we're all "willfully ignorant" in our > own ways, it's just hard to notice our own . . . > > But back to Owen's question . . . I'd say that the Republicans > have really gotten on board with the idea that it's OK to say and do > *anything* to get elected. In my experience, Democrats tend to have > at least a little trouble flat out lying . . . > > I often play the "projection" game when I listen to political > rhetoric -- i.e., if they accuse their opponents of something, it's > probably because they know that's what they'd do (or are doing). A > few examples: McCain says "Obama will say anything to get > elected" (charge doesn't really apply to Obama, but certainly does > to McCain). McCain/Palin say "Obama is a socialist" (Palin is > popular in Alaska because she increased taxes on the rich > (corporations) and gave the money directly to ordinary people, no > strings attached). McCain says "Obama wants to `spread the wealth > around'" -- meaning, he wants you to believe, take money from some > people and give it to others (he, and rich Republicans, are all for > it, as long as what you mean is, take $700 billion from ordinary > people and give it to financial institutions . . .) > > Oh, well . . . > > tom > > p.s. On the "Why isn't Obama white?" question: > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/27/EDQI13NPIT.DTL&hw=why+isn%27t+obama+white&sn=003&sc=242 > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kennison" <[hidden email]> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: [FRIAM] Book List > > It's getting close to that time of year when I tell my relatives which > books I would like to receive for Christmas. (This is looked on as a favor > as I am otherwise a tough person to shop for). I have already gotten some > good leads (including the David Wilson books and The Hemingses and Paul > Krugman). I would be delighted to receive more suggestions. > > John OK John, Now that the election is over and we are all near saturation over that and, as well, with purported causes and solutions for the financial meltdown, how about a change of pace in books? (Not that one has exhausted useful inputs on those subjects.) In all lack of humility, may I suggest my new book, which should appeal to some of the FRIAM people, oriented analytically and scientifically as many of us are. While it is really oriented toward non-technical people, it does take a fresh look at how physics and the visual arts touch each other. To get a glance on the Internet, put in " Hidden Harmony Leibowitz." and look at the Amazon entry as well as the Johns Hopkins Press one. It's awkward to toot one's own horn, but when you write for people with whom you want to share ideas, it is compelling to wish to reach out to them. (All of you who've been involved in such projects well know one doesn't do it for the money. I have 36 color prints in the book and have had to pay for permissions for most of them, so, if the book sells out, I will have paid off the cost of the first printing, and would need to start all over again if there are additional printings.Maybe the next one should have a nude on the cover instead of a Cezanne still life and a detail of the double slit interference experiment.) Of course, I would want the usual FRIAM exchange of discussion Thatt's what it's all about, isn't it. Jack ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Jack:
"Hidden Harmony" does look like an interesting read. How soon can we expect to see you in Santa Fe to give a presentation (and book signing?) at the Santa Fe Complex (www.sfcomplex.org)? -tom johnson On 11/6/08, Jack Leibowitz <[hidden email]> wrote:
-- ========================================== J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA www.analyticjournalism.com 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) http://www.jtjohnson.com [hidden email] "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller ========================================== ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Yes, the reviews are impressive, so I've got my order in to Amazon for two-day delivery. All ready for a book signing.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: Jack: -- George T. Duncan Professor of Statistics, Emeritus Heinz College Carnegie Mellon University (505) 983-6895 ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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I (Gregory Jones, new member to the discussion group) have placed an Amazon order as well!
_________________________________________________________ "For the rational study of the law the black-letter man may be the man of the present, but the man of the future is the man of statistics and master of economics." Oliver Wendell Holmes The Path of the Law (1897) GREGORY TODD JONES, M.B.A., M.P.A., J.D., Ph.D. Director of Research Director of The Computational Laboratory for Complex Adaptive Systems The Interuniversity Consortium on Negotiation and Conflict Resolution Faculty Research Fellow & Adjunct Professor of Law Georgia State University College of Law 140 Decatur Street Atlanta, Georgia 30303 USA web: http://www.gregorytoddjones.com email: [hidden email] blog: http://www.cooperationscience.blogspot.com voice: 404.413.9055 fax: 404.413.9058 skype: gregory.todd.jones >>> "George Duncan" <[hidden email]> 11/6/2008 12:41 PM >>> Yes, the reviews are impressive, so I've got my order in to Amazon for two-day delivery. All ready for a book signing. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > Jack: > > "Hidden Harmony" does look like an interesting read. How soon can we > expect to see you in Santa Fe to give a presentation (and book signing?) at > the Santa Fe Complex (www.sfcomplex.org)? > > -tom johnson > > > On 11/6/08, Jack Leibowitz <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kennison" <[hidden email]> >> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" < >> [hidden email]> >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:19 AM >> Subject: [FRIAM] Book List >> >> >> >>> It's getting close to that time of year when I tell my relatives which >>> books I would like to receive for Christmas. (This is looked on as a favor >>> as I am otherwise a tough person to shop for). I have already gotten some >>> good leads (including the David Wilson books and The Hemingses and Paul >>> Krugman). I would be delighted to receive more suggestions. >>> >>> John >>> >> >> >> OK John, >> >> Now that the election is over and we are all near saturation over that >> and, as well, with purported causes and solutions for the financial >> meltdown, how about a change of pace in books? (Not that one has exhausted >> useful inputs on those subjects.) >> >> In all lack of humility, may I suggest my new book, which should appeal to >> some of the FRIAM people, oriented analytically and scientifically as many >> of us are. While it is really oriented toward non-technical people, it does >> take a fresh look at how physics and the visual arts touch each other. >> >> To get a glance on the Internet, put in " Hidden Harmony Leibowitz." and >> look at the Amazon entry as well as the Johns Hopkins Press one. >> >> It's awkward to toot one's own horn, but when you write for people with >> whom you want to share ideas, it is compelling to wish to reach out to them. >> (All of you who've been involved in such projects well know one doesn't do >> it for the money. I have 36 color prints in the book and have had to pay for >> permissions for most of them, so, if the book sells out, I will have paid >> off the cost of the first printing, and would need to start all over again >> if there are additional printings.Maybe the next one should have a nude on >> the cover instead of a Cezanne still life and a detail of the double slit >> interference experiment.) >> >> Of course, I would want the usual FRIAM exchange of discussion Thatt's >> what it's all about, isn't it. >> >> Jack >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > > > > -- > ========================================== > J. T. Johnson > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > www.analyticjournalism.com > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > http://www.jtjohnson.com [hidden email] > > "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. > To change something, build a new model that makes the > existing model obsolete." > -- Buckminster Fuller > ========================================== > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- George T. Duncan Professor of Statistics, Emeritus Heinz College Carnegie Mellon University (505) 983-6895 ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Dr. Jones:
Welcome to FRIAM. I wonder if you might be so kind as to send me a copy of your article, "AGENT-BASED MODELING: USE WITH NECESSARY CAUTION" that appeared in the American Journal of Public Health. I am working with colleagues at a medical school in Cuba who, I am sure, would appreciate seeing it. All the best, Tom Johnson (in Santa Fe) On 11/6/08, Gregory Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: > I (Gregory Jones, new member to the discussion group) have placed an Amazon order as well! > > _________________________________________________________ > > ========================================== J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA www.analyticjournalism.com 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) http://www.jtjohnson.com [hidden email] "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller ========================================== ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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In reply to this post by Tom Johnson
Thanks Tom,
Don Begley already suggested that some time
ago, and suggested as well that it be in the form of a "blender". I've been out
of town quite a bit, in CA twice and on the East coast , from which we returned
yesterday (voted early).
Meanwhile, I'll be giving a talk at Artisan, on
Cerrillos Rd. on the 15th at 11 AM. That audience will likely be primarily
artists (That's my guess anyway.)
PS I do live in Santa Fe.
Jack
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But, as you've returned, we should return to the topic.
-d- On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Jack Leibowitz wrote:
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Hi Don,
Which topic: The "blender", which is too amorphous
for me, or the straight talk,interspersed with questions and informal discussion
among all present? Steve suggested both options. If you disagree, no problem. We
don't have to do it.
Jack
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In reply to this post by Gregory Jones
To the FRIAMers who kindly inquired, I'm giving a talk re the book (Hidden
Harmony, Johns Hopkins U Press, 2008) at the Santa Fe Complex, in Santa Fe, on Wed. evening, Dec. 10, within the 6-8 PM time slot. Jack [hidden email] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Jones" <[hidden email]> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Book List >I (Gregory Jones, new member to the discussion group) have placed an Amazon >order as well! > > _________________________________________________________ > > "For the rational study of the law the black-letter man may be the man of > the present, but the man of the future is the man of statistics and master > of economics." > > Oliver Wendell Holmes > The Path of the Law (1897) > > > GREGORY TODD JONES, M.B.A., M.P.A., J.D., Ph.D. > > Director of Research > Director of The Computational Laboratory for Complex Adaptive Systems > The Interuniversity Consortium on Negotiation and Conflict Resolution > > Faculty Research Fellow & Adjunct Professor of Law > Georgia State University College of Law > > 140 Decatur Street > Atlanta, Georgia 30303 USA > web: http://www.gregorytoddjones.com > email: [hidden email] > blog: http://www.cooperationscience.blogspot.com > voice: 404.413.9055 > fax: 404.413.9058 > skype: gregory.todd.jones > >>>> "George Duncan" <[hidden email]> 11/6/2008 12:41 PM >>> > Yes, the reviews are impressive, so I've got my order in to Amazon for > two-day delivery. All ready for a book signing. > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Jack: >> >> "Hidden Harmony" does look like an interesting read. How soon can we >> expect to see you in Santa Fe to give a presentation (and book signing?) >> at >> the Santa Fe Complex (www.sfcomplex.org)? >> >> -tom johnson >> >> >> On 11/6/08, Jack Leibowitz <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kennison" >>> <[hidden email]> >>> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" < >>> [hidden email]> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:19 AM >>> Subject: [FRIAM] Book List >>> >>> >>> >>>> It's getting close to that time of year when I tell my relatives which >>>> books I would like to receive for Christmas. (This is looked on as a >>>> favor >>>> as I am otherwise a tough person to shop for). I have already gotten >>>> some >>>> good leads (including the David Wilson books and The Hemingses and Paul >>>> Krugman). I would be delighted to receive more suggestions. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>> >>> >>> OK John, >>> >>> Now that the election is over and we are all near saturation over that >>> and, as well, with purported causes and solutions for the financial >>> meltdown, how about a change of pace in books? (Not that one has >>> exhausted >>> useful inputs on those subjects.) >>> >>> In all lack of humility, may I suggest my new book, which should appeal >>> to >>> some of the FRIAM people, oriented analytically and scientifically as >>> many >>> of us are. While it is really oriented toward non-technical people, it >>> does >>> take a fresh look at how physics and the visual arts touch each other. >>> >>> To get a glance on the Internet, put in " Hidden Harmony Leibowitz." >>> and >>> look at the Amazon entry as well as the Johns Hopkins Press one. >>> >>> It's awkward to toot one's own horn, but when you write for people with >>> whom you want to share ideas, it is compelling to wish to reach out to >>> them. >>> (All of you who've been involved in such projects well know one doesn't >>> do >>> it for the money. I have 36 color prints in the book and have had to pay >>> for >>> permissions for most of them, so, if the book sells out, I will have >>> paid >>> off the cost of the first printing, and would need to start all over >>> again >>> if there are additional printings.Maybe the next one should have a nude >>> on >>> the cover instead of a Cezanne still life and a detail of the double >>> slit >>> interference experiment.) >>> >>> Of course, I would want the usual FRIAM exchange of discussion Thatt's >>> what it's all about, isn't it. >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ========================================== >> J. T. Johnson >> Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA >> www.analyticjournalism.com >> 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) >> http://www.jtjohnson.com [hidden email] >> >> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. >> To change something, build a new model that makes the >> existing model obsolete." >> -- Buckminster Fuller >> ========================================== >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > > > > -- > George T. Duncan > Professor of Statistics, Emeritus > Heinz College > Carnegie Mellon University > (505) 983-6895 > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Hi, I won’t be able to make the talk, but I’ve put the book on my list. It looks good. --John On 11/24/08 3:38 PM, "Jack Leibowitz" <[hidden email]> wrote: To the FRIAMers who kindly inquired, I'm giving a talk re the book (Hidden ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Thanks John. Don Begley says we'll have to find a
new date since there are meetings on that date all day. I'm sure the reschedule
of the talk will be announced shortly.
Best, Jack
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