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Owen Densmore

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This will make Dave West happy:

https://hackernoon.com/back-to-the-future-with-smalltalk-57c68fab583a

-- Owen

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Gary Schiltz-4

Re: Back to the Future with Smalltalk – Hacker Noon

I read that I while back. I like Smalltalk too, but I'm not holding my breath.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

This will make Dave West happy:

https://hackernoon.com/back-to-the-future-with-smalltalk-57c68fab583a

-- Owen

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Alfredo Covaleda Vélez-2

Re: Back to the Future with Smalltalk – Hacker Noon

Gracias

Esto quizá podría resultarles interesante. Squeak is an open-source Smalltalk programming system.

http://squeak.org/

Regards

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

I read that I while back. I like Smalltalk too, but I'm not holding my breath.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
This will make Dave West happy:

https://hackernoon.com/back-to-the-future-with-smalltalk-57c68fab583a

-- Owen

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Merle Lefkoff-2

Fwd: Fwd: Back to the Future with Smalltalk – Hacker Noon

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From: Adam Lefkoff <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, May 23, 2018 at 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [FRIAM] Back to the Future with Smalltalk – Hacker Noon
To: Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]>

Smalltalk is no better or worse than any other programming language. Anyone saying otherwise has an underlying agenda...

On 5/22/2018 2:01 AM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Shalom Adam. Is this interesting?

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From: Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <[hidden email]>
Date: Tue, May 22, 2018 at 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Back to the Future with Smalltalk – Hacker Noon
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>

Gracias

Esto quizá podría resultarles interesante. Squeak is an open-source Smalltalk programming system.

http://squeak.org/

Regards

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

I read that I while back. I like Smalltalk too, but I'm not holding my breath.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

This will make Dave West happy:

https://hackernoon.com/back-to-the-future-with-smalltalk-57c68fab583a

-- Owen

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Fwd: Fwd: Back to the Future with Smalltalk – Hacker Noon

Besides the obvious things, like how easy it is to find developers, one’s current level of fluency, or how good the ecosystem of tools is around a language, I’d point to these properties as being important.

1) Is it strongly typed?

Do components connect together in such a way that one can have confidence the composition is correct just by virtue of compiling them?

Or do you have to run the code to find this out? Smalltalk does not have this property.

Anyone that has had a long workflow fail because of a typo that would have been caught in a well-typed program can appreciate this one.

Other people are deluded or have an agenda. ☺

2) Does it have type inference?

Given an expression, can its type – say symbols bound to the expression -- be constrained just from analysis? Or does the code have to run?

Smalltalk relies on dynamic typing (violating #1) and can’t do this.

3) Is it purely functional?

Can variables be mutated? Do functions act like mathematical functions?

Smalltalk is not purely functional.

4) Does it have closures?

Can contextual (e.g. read/only) objects be treated than index variables without changing the parameterization of functions?

`Blocks’ in Smalltalk.

5) Is it declarative?

Does the language simply try to reflect what a microprocessor does (C), or does it add other semantics like search (not as a library, but natively).

Does it insist the programmer must describe how to do everything rather than focus on what to do?

Does the language have a concept like satisfaction of a goal? Smalltalk, not really.

6) Is it homoiconic?

Can code construct code? (Without using text production and re-parsing.)

Smalltalk is not.

Overall, Smalltalk is an old language and computer science has progressed since then.

Marcus